Discussion:
Dewey for collection
Giuseppe Angilella
2014-10-18 05:31:06 UTC
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Hi,

I am about to assign a DDC call number to a series of books, all belonging
to the same collection. These are bilingual versions of English (both
British and American) short novels or stories. (Original English text on
odd pages, Italian translation on even pages.)

Each book is by a single author (i.e., it is not a "collection" or
"anthology" by itself).

I would be tempted to assign an 820.8 Dewey to all items, then a common
Cutter (based on the collection name), and finally a volume number.

However, I suspect this is not correct, and I should rather assign a more
generic 820 Dewey code.

(Also, the period in which the various works were originally published is
quite scattered, ranging from Shakespeare, to Dickens, to 20th century
authors.)

Your comments and advice will be much appreciated.

Many thanks!

Giuseppe.

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J. McRee Elrod
2014-10-18 05:59:13 UTC
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Post by Giuseppe Angilella
I would be tempted to assign an 820.8 Dewey to all items, then a common
Cutter (based on the collection name), and finally a volume number.
That would have been correct when I was in library school over half a
century ago. But now 820.8 is Victoria period. You would need to use
820.08. When I was in library school, two zeros were a mistake,
except in 300, where 301 was sociology, where the single zero was
taken, so two required for the form number 01.

Your single Cutter and volume number are fine.

Most of the authors you mention are novelists, which would suggest
823.008, but the presence of Shakespeare's plays would make it 820.08.

IMNSHO DDC has not been improved by redone schedules and other
changes. We had to omemorize DDC to the tens, and the form numbers,
so quite a few numbers sould be assigned without consulting the
schedules and tables.


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Giuseppe Angilella
2014-10-18 09:43:55 UTC
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Dear Mac,

thank you very much for your feedback.
Post by J. McRee Elrod
That would have been correct when I was in library school over half a
century ago. But now 820.8 is Victoria period. You would need to use
820.08. When I was in library school, two zeros were a mistake,
except in 300, where 301 was sociology, where the single zero was
taken, so two required for the form number 01.
I see what you mean. However, I wonder then why dewey.info still allows
820.8's:

http://dewey.info/class/820.8/e23/about
Post by J. McRee Elrod
Most of the authors you mention are novelists, which would suggest
823.008, but the presence of Shakespeare's plays would make it 820.08.
Indeed. However, my point is that each book is not a "collection" in
itself (i.e. several works by different authors), whereas it is the whole
"collection or series" of books that contains several authors.

So, does "collection" in 820.8 (or 820.08) refer to "monographs, each
containing works by several authors = anthologies", or to "series of
monographs, each [possibly] by a single, but different, author"?

Thanks again and best regards,

Giuseppe.

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Giles Martin
2014-10-18 11:34:44 UTC
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I've checked back through various editions of DDC, and from Edition 2 (1891) through to the current Edition 23 820.8 means collections of English literature.  I can't find it ever meaning English literature of the Victorian period.
Giuseppe Angilella's original question suggested that the series of monographs was limited to prose fiction, and only mentioned Shakespeare referring to the period that Shakespeare wrote in.  If it is only prose fiction, then the best number would be 823.008 (a number with the "00" that Mac complained about).
As far as what "collection" means, it relates to the work being classified.  If you are giving a single number to a multi-volume series, then the work is the series as a whole, and not any of the individual volumes.  In this case, if each volume has a single author, then each volume would get a DDC number in the range 821 to 828, but the multi-volume set would get 820.8 (if it includes poetry, drama, essays, etc.) or 823.008 (if it is limited to prose fiction).
Giles Martin(Retired librarian)



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Subject: Re: [ACAT] Dewey for collection

Dear Mac,

thank you very much for your feedback.
Post by J. McRee Elrod
That would have been correct when I was in library school over half a
century ago.  But now 820.8 is Victoria period.  You would need to use
820.08.  When I was in library school, two zeros were a mistake,
except in 300, where 301 was sociology, where the single zero was
taken, so two required for the form number 01.
I see what you mean. However, I wonder then why dewey.info still allows
820.8's:

http://dewey.info/class/820.8/e23/about
Post by J. McRee Elrod
Most of the authors you mention are novelists, which would suggest
823.008, but the presence of Shakespeare's plays would make it 820.08.
Indeed. However, my point is that each book is not a "collection" in
itself (i.e. several works by different authors), whereas it is the whole
"collection or series" of books that contains several authors.

So, does "collection" in 820.8 (or 820.08) refer to "monographs, each
containing works by several authors = anthologies", or to "series of
monographs, each [possibly] by a single, but different, author"?

Thanks again and best regards,

Giuseppe.



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