The primary vendors we use give us a mix of records, some created by them, some derived from OCLC records. Some vendors subscribe to OCLC and have permission to use its records; others do not have access to OCLC.
One competitor of OCLC (I will not name them, but everyone will know of whom I speak) claims they can use our records because they were created by a public agency. Although of course, some of our records were created by private companies.
It would be difficult to separate our records according to provenance, however, since we always add some local data.
Jay Towne Smith
Senior Cataloger
San Francisco Public Library
***@sfpl.org
From: Charles Pennell [mailto:***@ncsu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:40 AM
To: AUTOCAT; Smith, Jay (LIB)
Subject: Re: Z39.50 record sharing and vendor records
Unless the vendors are creating the records themselves or have purchased them from another agency such as OCLC, they cannot copyright the individual records they send you. I believe that most book vendors get full MARC records from LC, GPO, NLM, CONSER, LAC, and other national agencies, whose work is largely taxpayer-funded. The vendor-generated records are generally less than full level, lacking full call numbers and subject headings, and often with inaccurate transcription of descriptive data, which is to say not terribly useful to libraries other than as place-holders in the catalog.
Charley Pennell
Principal Cataloger
NCSU Libraries
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Smith, Jay (LIB) <***@sfpl.org<mailto:***@sfpl.org>> wrote:
Cherly Adams writes:
"[M]any of our MARC records now come from vendors, often with the explicit =
agreement that we will not share the records with other entities (including=
libraries)."
A number of our vendors for book and e-book materials supply cataloging rec=
ords as well. I am not really aware of such a restriction in our case. I=
may have missed something, since I am not the person dealing with vendor c=
ontracts, but it would be interesting to clarify this point. As a practica=
l matter, how could vendors possibly expect, in the era of shared catalogin=
g and extensive on-line access, that records would NOT be shared in some ma=
nner or other?
Of course many of us remember not so many years ago when we had to engage i=
n a wrestling match with OCLC to get them to admit that contributed records=
were ours to share and not theirs to control.
Jay Towne Smith
Senior Cataloger
San Francisco Public Library
***@sfpl.org<mailto:***@sfpl.org>
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